tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post8910689253207431754..comments2023-07-13T05:01:01.343-07:00Comments on Holistic Recovery from Schizophrenia: Community myths about schizophrenia recoveryAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06700295858497275586noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-69844032716503591752011-03-07T15:57:25.002-08:002011-03-07T15:57:25.002-08:00Recovery... a poem -
http://kaleidoscopes.co.za/h...Recovery... a poem -<br /><br />http://kaleidoscopes.co.za/html/recovery.html<br /><br />Duane SherryDuane Sherryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10482281700165504817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-15195746966545002962011-03-07T13:42:22.392-08:002011-03-07T13:42:22.392-08:00Anonymous,
I'm on the same page as Jane.
Your...Anonymous,<br /><br />I'm on the same page as Jane.<br />Your thoughts are right on the mark!<br /><br />Thank you,<br /><br />DuaneDuane Sherryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10482281700165504817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-90337767614424382012011-03-07T12:12:57.294-08:002011-03-07T12:12:57.294-08:00Anonymous said :"I also believe that every in...Anonymous said :"I also believe that every individual who recovers does several common things:<br /><br /><i>1) They reject their diagnosis and the limiting beliefs imposed by psychiatrists, society, and their formative experiences.<br /><br />2) They decide they deserve and want a functional, happy, and prosperous life and a relatedness to themselves, their families, and other human beings in society.<br /><br />3) Most importantly they take responsibility and their thoughts and actions are consistent with being responsible and pursuing and achieving goals." </i><br /><br />I one hundred percent agree with this, Anonymous, for this process led to my recovery as well. With such insight into real recovery, I have to wonder why you are anon :). Hopefully you will spread that wisdom to others, if not here in the blog world, than in your day-to-day life.Janehttp://roguetaoist.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-18581922905344247342011-03-05T17:02:57.937-08:002011-03-05T17:02:57.937-08:00I think it's quite impossible to say how someo...I think it's quite impossible to say how someone, even if that someone is oneself, will experience any given situation, and how they will react to it, as long as they aren't in that situation. If anybody had been able to tell me what I was going to experience, I'd probably said, OMG! I'm not going to survive that! I believe that we grow with and through our experiences, in the sense that the challenging ones open our eyes to how strong we actually are. Everyone of us. Wanting drugs is probably more a result of others telling us how weak ("sick") we are, and us believing in this, than of an actual lack of inner strength, or reserves and creativity.Marianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16273435151682585281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-47056761958888437132011-03-04T23:28:53.814-08:002011-03-04T23:28:53.814-08:00Interesting thought.Interesting thought.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06700295858497275586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-28527515150073542712011-03-04T11:02:02.679-08:002011-03-04T11:02:02.679-08:00Often when I think of people with a schizophrenia ...Often when I think of people with a schizophrenia diagnosis I try to put myself in their shoes, and I think, God, what if I would actually want drugs?! I can imagine that. <br /><br />But what I often fail to recognize is that while the psychic reactions or delusions are apparently stronger than anything I’ve ever experienced, perhaps so too are the reserves and creativity of the people having them. Meaning that I have from time to time been subject to anxiety and indecision, but I have over time come to feel equal to it. Therefore, is it not possible that those who have received the schizophrenia diagnosis are not similarly equal to their challenges?<br /><br />So when people say, ‘imagine if you went into a manic phase,’ or ‘imagine if you had delusions,’ as a way of pushing the drug scenario, it might not be a fair analogy. <br /><br />Just one of my thoughts today. <br /><br />-B'hamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-43706502554372059642011-03-03T04:50:55.998-08:002011-03-03T04:50:55.998-08:00Recovery, to my mind, is the ability to overcome t...Recovery, to my mind, is the ability to overcome the confining context, the social stigma, the limitations, the condition, and the medication, to live an empowered, productive, satisfying, and self-sufficient life, absent any dependence on medical or pharmaceutical care.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-41890722979071439432011-03-02T21:48:01.550-08:002011-03-02T21:48:01.550-08:00Anon: There is no commonly agreed upon definition ...Anon: There is no commonly agreed upon definition of "recovery" and the word is often used deceitfully by pharmaceutical propaganda> The loose knit "survivor" community started to use this word in the 1980's before that it had no common meaning associated with mental health - if it did I don't think many people heard it, including myslef. <br />I have no idea why people would want to use that word with the "RE-", any kind of healed person from mental illness would be something new, something that hasn't existed before. I think the Pharma companies promoted the use of this word because their definition of "recovery" means "stabilized on meds" - but even in that the consumer has not gone back to anything - it is something new - a different sort of dragged down or lop-side consciousness, for most, anyway.<br /><br />Even though you stated some attributes of you definition of recovery I have no real idea of what you mean by "recovery because you did not define it.<br />...<br />Defining this word for those that use it is a step forward in growth.Skybluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12366888956552012585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-6202486789673841522011-03-02T05:23:11.180-08:002011-03-02T05:23:11.180-08:00While society at large, drug companies, and psychi...While society at large, drug companies, and psychiatrists all possess their own myths regarding schizophrenia, be mindful that you and I and others who have rejected their common beliefs also have our own myths and beliefs.<br /><br />For example you have a belief that recovery is a ten year process and you are professing this myth. Sometimes we take our own experience and generalize it. Is this fact? Not necessarily. Some people recover quicker than this and others never recover. I think a lot of time is wasted while we fumble around for something that works and while we undo and overcome the damage imposed by the limiting generalized beliefs of psychiatrists and society.<br /><br />While there may be similarities in the behavioural patterns of individuals who have been classified as schizophrenic we need to respect that each individual is in fact just that, an individual and they deserve to be treated as such, with compassion and love. I believe that the relationship that develops during the recovery process is more important than the methods employed to aid recovery.<br /><br />I also believe that every individual who recovers does several common things:<br /><br />1) They reject their diagnosis and the limiting beliefs imposed by psychiatrists, society, and their formative experiences.<br /><br />2) They decide they deserve and want a functional, happy, and prosperous life and a relatedness to themselves, their families, and other human beings in society.<br /><br />3) Most importantly they take responsibility and their thoughts and actions are consistent with being responsible and pursuing and achieving goals.<br /><br />I am inclined to think that we spend too much time overanalyzing the past and too little time focused on the present, and creating the future, absent the limiting beliefs derived from the past. <br /><br />I am reminded of three Inuit men who were out on the land in northern Canada and who had lost their way. When one said to the others "We're lost!" Another replied "We're not lost. We're here!"<br /><br />We are never lost in the present moment. We are here. We are only lost in how we relate the present to the past and the future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-3266337317788942862011-03-02T02:29:09.146-08:002011-03-02T02:29:09.146-08:00"He would tell me that he can't feel any ..."He would tell me that he can't feel any emotion, that he can't engage with people, that he felt disassociated and that this was the way he felt his whole life,""<br /><br />What is the expected response here? Examine the alternatives to find a truth. <br /><br />So, by the sufferer, is this an expression of joy? happiness? relief? a statement of fact from a robot? or I think really - a complaint?<br /><br />A complaint? Then there is something to work with. "How do you wish to engage?" Etc. The work begins, doesn't it?<br /><br />Even a butterfly dreams, I think there is always something to work on.<br />Nobody is not a person, if SZ are not people then just dope 'em up - no point. Biomed shrinks think they are not people. Everybody is a desiring organism there is always something at the root. Possibly something that is frustrated. Suicide is the frustrated desire for life.Skybluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12366888956552012585noreply@blogger.com