tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post2635147859361730278..comments2023-07-13T05:01:01.343-07:00Comments on Holistic Recovery from Schizophrenia: Schizophrenia Commission not re-thinking schizophernia labelAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06700295858497275586noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-76213477935864550892012-11-19T10:56:30.541-08:002012-11-19T10:56:30.541-08:00Alison Brabban, hm, I don't know... I heard he...Alison Brabban, hm, I don't know... I heard her at the World Hearing Voices Congress earlier this year in Cardiff, and I must admit that it was the usual CBT nonsense, this time illustrated with a, uhm, bucket parable -- sounds kind of familiar, doesn't it, the bucket... -- and accompanied by a truly heart-breaking jeremiad about us mean, mean voice hearers who keep being suspicious toward the poor, poor, only well-intentioned CBT-knowalls, er, therapists, like herself. "Why, oh why are you sooo mean to us???" Incredible. <br /><br />My impression, hearing her talk about how CBT (oh, and also these early intervention teams for "psychosis", one of which she is a member of) was just sooo respecting its, uhm, "patients" (there the respect went, bye bye) was actually that Alison Brabban hadn't got anything exactly. Indeed it had me wonder which planet she's living on as it impossibly can be earth.Marianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16273435151682585281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-23628689944121905032012-11-14T15:27:29.301-08:002012-11-14T15:27:29.301-08:00We're on the same page.
He likes to quote Ein...We're on the same page.<br /><br />He likes to quote Einstein.<br />He's a lot of things... but, he's no Einstein!<br /><br />DuaneDuane Sherryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10482281700165504817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-88561973031652047452012-11-14T02:03:04.493-08:002012-11-14T02:03:04.493-08:00Thanks for joining! I hope I can be of service.
Be...Thanks for joining! I hope I can be of service.<br />Best,<br />RossaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06700295858497275586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-67923965926943483512012-11-13T13:13:29.084-08:002012-11-13T13:13:29.084-08:00Glad to have found your blog!Glad to have found your blog!Marlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09994591694964533809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-35657436133176232302012-11-13T00:44:53.411-08:002012-11-13T00:44:53.411-08:00I should have made it clearer. Dr. Allen has routi...I should have made it clearer. Dr. Allen has routinely misspelled Szasz's name in the past. I don't want to give him too much credit for spelling it correctly. The obit was right there in front of him, so there would have been no excuse. While I am warming to the subject, here's a delicious retort by Dr. Allen to a comment on the post.<br /><br />"I, for one, can tell the difference between schizophrenia and personality disorders. <br /><br />(I heard Szasz speak in person spouting his nonsense, and it was quite easy to understand how full of crap he was)."<br /><br />Well, there are two things I could say. 1. Where's the science behind the first statement and 2. it's unseemly for a supposed professional of any stripe to get hot under the collar and resort to using words like "crap" and, on other occasions "sheesh." Psychiatrists, especially, should avoid using colloquialisms when they put fingers to keypad, IMHO. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06700295858497275586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-83766855607551862182012-11-13T00:30:07.759-08:002012-11-13T00:30:07.759-08:00Hi, Duane,
With great reluctance I clicked on the ...Hi, Duane,<br />With great reluctance I clicked on the link to Allen's post. I read it exactly as you called it -- psychiatry fearing that Szasz killed the goose that lays the golden egg. Defensive - in the extreme. I gave up a while ago trying to pry Dr. Allen away from the golden egg (schizophrenia) and a secondary reason for my giving up was his consistently poor spelling. At least he spelled Szasz's name right in this post (at least I think he did, if my memory serves), but he also routinely misspells the names of medications, which is scary, if you're the patient.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06700295858497275586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-16647894767874405522012-11-12T21:33:56.554-08:002012-11-12T21:33:56.554-08:00In fairness, he agrees with the author who called ...In fairness, he agrees with the author who called him a "crank."<br /><br />Gotta love Dr. Allen.<br />Or, not!<br /><br />DuaneDuane Sherryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10482281700165504817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-64961576826117240482012-11-11T20:25:38.187-08:002012-11-11T20:25:38.187-08:00The "schizophrenia" labeling continues h...The "schizophrenia" labeling continues here in the U.S. also, due in large part to psychiatrists like Dr. David M. Allen, who insists it is a "brain disease" and that only he (and a few other elites) posess the skills and training to recognize this "illness" and provide "proper treatment."<br /><br />Never mind the subjective drugging, the grave harm to many, the abysmal track record... A reminder of the line from a classic - "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. The great and powerful Oz has spoken." <br /><br />IMO, Dr. Allen exemplifies the arrogance of his profession. He marginalizes any voice of dissent, especially those who ask good questions, and present facts that challenge the satus quo. <br /><br />IMO, he is a member of the pseudo-reform movement, which will continue to hang on to the "schizophrenia" label for dear-life, knowing that when the "schizophrenia" myth dies, so does the entire psychiatric profession (as has been pointed out on your blog more than once).<br /><br />In this post (and with his comments that follow), he dismisses the work of Dr. Thomas Szasz, calling him a "crank." -<br /><br />http://davidmallenmd.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-tragedy-of-thomas-szasz.html<br /><br /><br />Duane<br />discoverandrecover.wordpress.comDuane Sherryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10482281700165504817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-87860721475925236612012-11-11T13:37:47.342-08:002012-11-11T13:37:47.342-08:00What about replacing the term with something simpl...What about replacing the term with something simple and easy to understand - "fellow human being?"<br /><br />DuaneDuane Sherryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10482281700165504817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-11153783882784147292012-11-11T12:24:48.723-08:002012-11-11T12:24:48.723-08:00Hi Rossa
Yes, I did have high hopes for the Commi...Hi Rossa<br /><br />Yes, I did have high hopes for the Commission at one point - when they invited people with the diagnosis to London to 'Give Evidence' they really gave the impression that our opinions mattered. In the end, though, having a psychiatrist as the chair obviously totally skewed the outcome! <br /><br />Shame - because there were some lovely and understanding people on the commission - for example Alison Brabban, a clinical psychologist, who gets the issues exactly, and the Health Editor from the Independent (can't remember his name at the moment, but I did get the feeling that he too was rational and would perhaps help further the cause of decency and human kindness).<br /><br />Thanks for following my post up though. x x Schizophrenia at the Schoolgatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03839755338912448705noreply@blogger.com