tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post117427743791011783..comments2023-07-13T05:01:01.343-07:00Comments on Holistic Recovery from Schizophrenia: Handbook of Complementary and Alternative Therapies in Mental HealthAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06700295858497275586noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-10534646045317952642011-07-31T08:55:46.137-07:002011-07-31T08:55:46.137-07:00the book looks helpful and important :-)
we'r...the book looks helpful and important :-)<br /><br />we're in agreement there. I simply get concerned that people will feel safe with a care provider just because they don't use pharma...<br /><br />it's not a safe assumption to make...one must always remain engaged with their care and unfortunately the only way to get truly good care is to learn as much as one can about exactly what is being done to their body...<br /><br />that, tragically, is not always possible.<br /><br />I guess the bottom line is life is full of risk. always.<br /><br />I have two very wonderful mainstream doctors...who've respected me all along as well...people are people...that's the big lesson I've come away with in all of this.<br /><br />have a great vacation!!Giannahttp://bipolarblast.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-66226667324037134352011-07-31T07:21:04.302-07:002011-07-31T07:21:04.302-07:00Hi, Gianna,
I guess I am now contradicting myself...Hi, Gianna, <br />I guess I am now contradicting myself when I agree with you that even an alternative approach can harm, but to me, a lot of the perceived harm in CAM can be in the personality of the practitioner. Some can be just as dogmatic as the mainstream, especially in the area of psychotherapies, but not limited to this area. The reason I posted the book is because it's the only textbook I've seen that takes CAM seriously and explains what might be available for people. I had to stumble around on my own, with no guidance, finding therapies on the Internet that I thought might work for Chris. This book seems to cover most of the approaches, without being too specific, but at least cluing people in that there is something available. Then, it's up to the person to take what they want from it and move on. Everybody has to decide for themselves about what works for them and be selfish about it. When it comes to vitamins and minerals, though, the body count cannot be compared with the body count from pharmaceuticals. Homeopathy needs professional advice, but the situation is always trickier with withdrawal from drugs. However, isn't it the drugs in the first place that cause the problem with the withdrawal? Generally, most non-pharmaceutical remedies are safe. That's why there has been such an big increase in the number of people turning to CAM in the first place. Anyway, thanks for pointing out that nothing is 100% harmless, and that it is, indeed, trial and error.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06700295858497275586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-2927516652467262592011-07-29T01:35:36.712-07:002011-07-29T01:35:36.712-07:00people directing care can harm...doesn't matte...people directing care can harm...doesn't matter what one calls themselves (traditional or alternative). I've had coercive treatment by more alt docs then I care to spell out...<br /><br />I just don't go to care providers of any sort anymore unless they truly and deeply get that at most I'm consulting them...I take no more direction. I almost died under the care of an alt medicine more than once...I wish I was exaggerating. And then the number of times people got bent out of shape because I chose to listen to my body and tweak their directions...well...I can't possibly count that. <br /><br />I do have some wonderful people in alt fields that I've come to know as well...but I never tell people to assume it's safe because it's alt. It's simply not. The withdrawal boards are littered with stories of people being harmed by such care. <br /><br />Sorry...I do think alt care is potentially a much better choice and certainly most of my self-care comes under such a heading...but it took many many years of trial and error and many times of bumping up against stuff that hurt and harmed both to find what is supporting me now.Giannahttp://bipolarblast.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-66598806800936140792011-07-27T14:48:48.192-07:002011-07-27T14:48:48.192-07:00Re: Human Givens
Sorry, Rossa, I should have expl...Re: Human Givens<br /><br />Sorry, Rossa, I should have explained further. Human Givens is an approach to the understanding and treatment of mental illness. 'Givens' refers to basic human needs.<br /><br />This link to a page on the Human Givens Institute website should help: <br />http://www.hgi.org.uk/archive/articlesonpsychosis.htm<br /><br />I also wrote a short blog post this evening on the subject with a link to an article on Human Givens and schizophrenia. <br /><br />I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the Human Givens approach. I have been reading about it on the net for the last few hours (also watched a short video) and have found it fascinating. <br /><br />Louise xSchizophrenia at the Schoolgatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03839755338912448705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-49930744751976299772011-07-27T12:42:47.040-07:002011-07-27T12:42:47.040-07:00Yes, the price is a textbook price. The book is ta...Yes, the price is a textbook price. The book is targeted to physicians. I don't think that any researcher will ever be able to subject complementary and alternative medicine to double blind tests, etc. The beauty of this, is that it should stay outside of conventional medicine. Complementary, alternative and holistic medicine really "do no harm." There are cautions, of course, with certain homeopathic remedies, like St. John's wort, but for the vast number of mind/body therapies, it is up to the individual to decide how far they want to go with it. I will look up the book your friend recommended. Strange title.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06700295858497275586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2894514913516471357.post-9924146973015745332011-07-27T10:57:41.925-07:002011-07-27T10:57:41.925-07:00Hi Rossa
I just went to Amazon to try to get that...Hi Rossa<br /><br />I just went to Amazon to try to get that book. Only a Kindle edition is available (obviously I can't complain about that!) but it costs £63...ouch. I might try to order it from the library. Or look elsewhere online, thinking about it.<br /><br />A friend of mine came over with her kids today. She is an occupational nurse, has done a fair amount of counselling work (her last job was with the police force). She has been reading my book and we had a chat (between feeding and watering the troops). She mentioned something called 'Human Givens' which she said she did a seminar on through work and has been meaning to research further. I just did a quick Google search on it and thought it might be another useful thread for your book research. Apologies if you have heard of it already...you probably have. I have not yet read all the back posts to your blog, so I don't know. All the best, LouiseSchizophrenia at the Schoolgatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03839755338912448705noreply@blogger.com